"We managed to hang in there. Today when people get married there's a tendency to run away when things get tough. There is a lot of strength in hanging together."
"Oprah was not somebody who was telling us what to do, she wasn't really teaching us like so many people we see today. With Oprah, she was learning and we were learning with her. And I think that's really was the seed that was planted for all of us to just hang in there with her."